Friday, October 28, 2011

A trick for some, a treat for others

11:00 AM EDT 10/29/11 | FINAL STORM GRADE FORECAST AMOUNTS 
The image below contains our final storm projections for this event. Once all Local Storm Reports have been submitted to the respective NWS office, we a member of our team outside the Mid-Atlantic will conduct an independent verification of our results and grade the storm, based on the departure between predicted and actual.  



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If you want to take part in recording this historic event, you are welcome to post imagery and observations in the comment feature on this page, or to your local team in facebook as linked below. Many readers in Maryland and Virginia are already reporting snow on secondary roads, cars and grassy surfaces.



WINTER STORMCAST ZONES Mid-Atlantic | Northeast 
VIRGINIA Central | Northern | Tidewater
WEST VIRGINIA Potomac Ridge & Valley 
MARYLAND   Capital Region | Central |  Northern Bayshore 
PENNSYLVANIA   Southeast | Central | Three Rivers
NEW YORK  Central NY State | New York Metro


8:50 AM EDT 10/29/11 A SIGHT YOU'VE NEVER SEEN The image above from the NWS Eastern Regional Headquarters depicts the current extent of Winter Storm Warnings and related Winter advisories along the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. If this were December or after, we would all be saying, "well after all it is December you know." In October 2009 an early season snow brought up to six inches in State College, PA along with the subsequent power outages. It led to a post we titled "December in October?" That event gave our team an indication of what the winter would bring: Unexpected high impact events generated by a resurgent El Nino


Mr. Foot, Devon PA, Oct 1972
Now we are faced with a new wild card: A La Nina pattern producing a significant winter storm occuring very far outside the climatological norm. The only comparison we could find was back to October 1972 for so much snow this early. Thanks to Mr. Foot's Mother, we were able to dig up photo proof of the last time there was measurable snow at this time of year: October 18 and 19, 1972 as reported by Pennsylvania  Lehigh Valley's Morning Call in this article. Like Charleton Heston said in his gravelly voice at the opening of the 1998 film Armageddon, "It happened before, it will happen again. It's just a question of... when." 


             Winter Stormcast Zone returns


12:10 AM EDT 10/29/11 | WELCOME BACK TO THE WINTER STORMCAST ZONE. In advance of this significant early season storm, we have relaunched the most popular zone on this page from the previous two winters, found at this link. For those in schools or at work and unable to access facebook during the business day, this new tab will provide you with a wide-angle heads up on the next storm, as posted on the regional facebook page. 


6:15 PM EDT 10/28/11 | STORM UPDATE & ANALYSIS | While once-strong Hurricane Rina has drifted into weak Tropical Depression status, her parting gift may be an injection of moisture into the expected Mid-Atlantic and Northeast U.S. snowstorm. We have conducted extensive analysis of the situation throughout the day and are very concerned about several key  issues:


* POWER OUTAGES: While 8 or more inches may fall in places like Lancaster or Harrisburg in PA, and Westminster, Frederick MD-- perhaps just 4 inches will reach the ground due to the sun evaporating away the snow as it falls. However those 4 inches might actually contain 1 full inch of water. The weight of this water-laden snow on full foliage may produce extremely disruptive and complicated outages.


*DYNAMICAL COOLING: We are observing evidence that a high pressure system in Canada is starting to orient in the classic, but troubling "sweet spot" of southern Ontario. At 1025 mb, the cold air within this High is likely to be tapped by the developing ~1000mb low. The interaction of these two opposing pressure systems over a relatively small geographical area (the eastern mid Atlantic) could easily produce strong upward motion and in turn, dynamical cooling. This has the effect of allowing the storm to generate additional cold air, feeding on the decreasing temperatures as snow falls, and squeezing more snow out of the same amount of atmospheric moisture.  


*HEAVY SNOW BANDS: We believe some areas of central Maryland, central Virginia and central Pennsylvania may experience extremely high snowfall rates in a short period of time which could eclipse current NWS projections for those areas, especially if the snow becomes convective in nature as suggested by modeled data from the North American Mesoscale.


(Advisors Mr. Foot and Dr. Winstead, Forecasters Jason M., and Greg J.)


11:30 AM EDT 10/28/11 | SIGNIFICANT EARLY SEASON SNOWSTORM | The Snowfall Probability Graphic below is derived from the NOAA Winter Weather Product Suite as posted by the National Centers for Environmental Prediction in Camp Springs, MD. Many members of our team have visited this facility and interacted with their meteorologists. 

We have respect for their professional eye on winter weather, and concur with NOAA on this developing situation. By 5 PM this afternoon, the Winter Stormcast Team will be posting preliminary "Storm Grade Amounts" for representative locations in the Mid-Atlantic, as posted in a data graphic on this page. 

We have high confidence this event will be a significant snowfall for many areas east of Interstate 81 along the Mid-Atlantic and into the Northeastern U.S.



STORM SYNOPSIS: The arrival of a cold high pressure system last night across the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast has become the "game changer" of this storm situation. Low pressure in the Gulf of Mexico today will move northeast to off the North Carolina coast by early Saturday, and northward to New England by Sunday. Due to the pressure gradient interaction that is likely to setup between the coastal low and the cold high pressure system, we are in fact looking at a classic winter storm scenario for the populated areas of the I-95 corridor from Washington DC to the Baltimore region to eastern Pennsylvania, most of New Jersey, eastern New York and New England. 

Graphic:  Surface Low Tracks as projected by NOAA NCEP. 

PRIMARY HAZARDS: The multi-state Winter Storm Watches that started this Happy Friday for millions of people may seem like a joke in October, but belie a greater danger: Leaves. With 80% of the foliage still on trees throughout the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast, a heavy snow event, even if 3 or 4 inches, could produce surprisingly disruptive power outages. The moisture content of any snow falling this time of year will be much higher than what would be observed in mid winter. Our main concerns:

* POWER OUTAGES: While 8 inches may fall in places like Lancaster or Harrisburg in PA, and Westminster, Frederick or Rockville, MD-- perhaps just 4 inches will reach the ground due to the sun evaporating away the snow as it falls. However those 4 inches might actually contain 1 full inch of water. The weight of this water-laden snow on full foliage may produce extremely disruptive and complicated outages.

* VISIBILITY: In Pennsylvania, New Jersey and along the I-95 corridor from Philadelphia to Washington, rain on Saturday should mix with and change to snow as the afternoon progresses. However, once snow does fully change over, we expect it to be falling rapidly and in large flakes. The primary risk period is from 4 to 8 PM, as the heaviest snowfall should occur during the busiest commuting time of the day, even for a Saturday. You will probably notice how quickly the ground becomes covered tomorrow afternoon as the sun begins to set, allowing the ground to chill further as the snow falls. 

* LACK OF PUBLIC AWARENESS: A reader from Lancaster PA noted to the team, "how can we be getting 4 to 8 inches tomorrow, it is a gorgeous sunny day right now?" All we can say is that La Nina is known for producing short term, high impact events that catch many people off guard. It is difficult to accept that by noon on Saturday, those seeing blue skies presently may be digging for the snowshovel in the basement.  

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? We know it is only October, and historically these kinds of winter weather events do not happen this far outside of winter. However, a resurgent La Nina has played a major role in the variability and frequency of both hurricanes and mid-latitude cyclones. As NOAA stated in the recently released Winter Outlook, "“There is a wild card, though. The erratic Arctic Oscillation can generate strong shifts in the climate patterns that could overwhelm or amplify La NiƱa’s typical impacts.”  It is interesting to note that just over a week after this statement, the Mid-Atlantic faces a wild card storm event that is, ironically, occuring just as the Arctic Oscillation is currently in a negative trend.

NEXT TEAM REPORT: Our Winter Stormcast Team is assembling a new overview presently, and will post this afternoon on this site as well as in our Mid-Atlantic and Northeast Winter Stormcast Zones on facebook.

(Forecasters Foot, Jason and Dakota. Advisors Dr. Pete Winstead, Brad Lear Keith Krichinsky)

103 comments:

Julie Ray Smith said...

=-O =-O =-O

Elaina-Lee Dill said...

I second that

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

Back in business!  Snowblower dusted off and ready to shred some paste!  Liquor store shelf emptied along with bank account, spare liver on standby (just in case), and we will see what track this BEAST will take.

ravensbbr said...

Did anyone know what a snowthrower shear pin was before today? I didn't, but thanks to the kindly neighborhood John Deere dealer I do now. Surprised it didn't break last year from what they said.

Cocked, locked, and ready to rock here in NE CC...gunmetal grey sky and smell all point to the (hopeful) mayhem about to ensue...

Julie Ray Smith said...

<span>where's my shovel? I was in the snowhole last year, still have that foil on the snowblower. Now we have a huge parking pad I keep saying we need to put a marker along the edge or I am gonna drive off the edge if we get just 2" of snow... there's time, there's time he says. HA</span>

Tina said...

Agreed on the "snow smell" outdoors and it just so feels like snow... we even have it in fabulous Gaithersburg.  I lived in Ellicott City for so long that, as I follow FF and JB, I think, weeeee!!!  Then remember I'm much further south.  Alas.

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

<pre>For Southern PA

...FIRST WINTER STORM OF THIS SEASON TAKING SHAPE...

.A STORM SYSTEM DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. TODAY WILL
CONTINUE TO DEEPEN AND HEAD UP THE EAST COAST TONIGHT AND
SATURDAY. THIS WILL BRING A WIDESPREAD HEAVY WET...POTENTIALLY
DAMAGING WET SNOW TO THE REGION STARTING OVERNIGHT AND LASTING
THROUGH THE DAY SATURDAY.

STORM TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE EXPECTED...WITH
LOCALLY HEAVIER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE ESPECIALLY OVER SOME OF THE
REGION`S HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

IN ADDITION TO VERY HAZARDOUS TRAVEL...THE HEAVY WET SNOW WILL
LIKELY WEIGH DOWN TREES WHICH STILL HAVE LEAVES ON THEM...LEADING
TO DOWNED TREES AND POWER OUTAGES</pre>

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

I just realized I live at 1000 ft elevation and I'm surrounded by trees that are close to 100 feet tall in the woods.  =-O   Guess there will be plenty of firewood falling out of the sky!

Julie Ray Smith said...

you just realized that :-P

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

I'm not that gifted!  So what is obvious to some, takes me years to realize. :'(

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

=-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O =-O


... Winter Storm Warning remains in effect from 2 am to 10 PM EDT
Saturday...

* locations... most of central Pennsylvania

* hazard types... heavy wet snow... which will be mixed with rain
for a few hours after the onset near... and to the southeast of
intestate 81.

* Accumulations... 5 to 10 inches of snow... with localized amounts
around 1 foot.

* Timing... beginning as light snow shortly before midnight in the
Laurel Highlands and south central Pennsylvania... spreading
over the remainder of the warning area overnight. The snow will
fall heavy at times beginning Saturday morning. The snow will
taper to snow showers Saturday evening.

* Impacts... the heavy wet snow will create hazardous travel
conditions... with snow covered roads and poor visibility. In
addition... widespread power outages will be possible as the
snow weighs heavily on trees which may still have most of their
leaves.

* Winds... north to northeast 5 to 10 mph... with gusts up to 25 mph
Saturday into Saturday evening.

* Temperatures... initially in the mid 30s to lower 40s
tonight... then falling in the lower and mid 30s for the bulk of
the storm.

* Visibilities... reduced to under one half of a mile at times.

Julie Ray Smith said...

you need to come out of that mancave more often :-D

Julie Ray Smith said...

what are your thoughts for us here in Balto Co/N AAco?

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

The few neighbors that I do have would probably not appreciate that! 

ravensbbr said...

Just pray the mancave is out of the bounce radius of those 100-footers. =-O

nafinegar said...

Well, I have the hoops in my garden covered with plastic so my lettuce and spinach should survive. I'm going to pick all the tomatoes tomorrow. Fried green tomatoes served in Columbia!

Tina said...

Localized, a foot of snow?????  Lordy, I just wish there weren't so many leaves still on the trees up yonder.  Stickage is gonna equal major suckage, power-wise.

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

It's like a mortuary in here!  Most of us are expecting accumlating snow before Halloween, and the silence is underwheliming.  I anticipated that this place would be lit up like a Bob Marley concert, during a State sanctioned cannibus amnesty night, instead, it resembles a monestary full of narcaleptic monks being treated by Dr. Conrad Murry with introvenous propofol!

ravensbbr said...

<span>Took us by surprise, Andy. Ain't had time to get all amped yet. Although the kids have gotten up twice asking where the snow is.</span> :-P

<span>Possibly not the most precise modeling out there (i.e. pixel's the size of Delaware), but does look interesting...  
 
http://coolwx.com/ptype/</span>

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

You may get your wish.  Well, there probably won't be many leaves, or trees left for that matter by Sunday morning.  That is my new found optimism speaking of course. 

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

The rabbits ate all my food months ago :( , BUT it appears that something has eatin all the rabbits :) , serves those smelly buggars right anyway.  It is too late to plant anything and we already have had frost. 

ravensbbr said...

Pretty sure both those pharmaceuticals would net you about the same stoner end results. Maybe Charlie Sheen on crank would be a better comparison? Then again, I've never been to a Bob Marley concert...

But that is a good point, where's Money, Rufus, etc.? 

Julie Ray Smith said...

I am having trouble getting pumped about 1-2"

Julie Ray Smith said...

lol lol lol SNOW lol :-[

ravensbbr said...

Well, folks, going to go watch the new Captain America with the wife. Will check back upon first flake falling. Or might fall asleep first. Or tomorrow morning. Whichever one of those happens first.

Julie Ray Smith said...

I don't know why I am complaining, I really should be greatful for flurries before Halloween.

hocoKtchr said...

Crazy reports of this snow...all over the place depending on which channel, website etc!  And "word of mouth" is like the old telephone game you used to play with the kids where you start with a message and see how twisted it is by the time it goes all the way around the circle!  No need  for it now with facebook updates, twitter feeds etc!  But I have heard reports from 1 inch to 1 foot!  Too funny!  The good news is that we don't need to have the "will we have school tomorrow?" discussion!  The answer is NO!  Take care all and enjoy the flakes!  (I hope!!!)  :-D

nafinegar said...

Sorry to hear that!  We had a groundhog pass by which instigated the hoop building. At that point I replanted the fall veggies and thought I would give the mini-greenhouses a go this year.  I have an outstanding bounty with my dogs - the first one to bring in the groundhog dead gets steak for dinner!

Amy said...

Doubtful I'll see much here in AA county near the water... at least I can watch the news coverage for ya'll gettin a lot more than me.

juleew said...

 Who(m) are you calling a narcoleptic monk???????!!!  I've been keeping up on my iPad, BUT I can't do the comments section there.
Thought I'd meander over to the Big Mac and see if SOMEone was out of his mancave, bustling about, readying the Mega Blower and hurling invectives ... and sure enough ... Heeeeeeere's Andrew!
Well I have something to say as well.  For TWO days my school courtyard birds have been going CRAZY -- eating everything in sight.  I filled the birdfeeder two times yesterday and three times today.  This is JUST what happened before the big snowstorms two years in a row.  Don't bother watching TV weather, just watch my BIRDS!  I should just put a real time camera out there.
Two days ago, before I heard about the snow, I saw the birds going crazy at the feeder all day long.  Wondered what was up, looked at the forecast and there it was ... THE word ... SN*W!
BIRDS, people.  Can't go wrong.

BioPat said...

 Hey Brad, thanks for the t-shirt, it's great; however you forgot to include a bill - let me know and I'll forward.

  Well this is an intersting scenario; cold rain currently falling here in Catonsville, but I am awaiting a change over at some point in the wee hours.  I find it hard to believe we will see a significant accumulation here, but in Andy's neck of the woods another story.  I'm glad Andy got his snowblower dusted and prepped; I did concede on buying a new snow shovel because I'm not seeing the need for the snowblower yet.

  I'll be up for a few more hours checking any additional input from all sources. Mentioning the "S" word in October classes certainly was a great warmup for Friday classes.  The guys are convinced if we get 4 inches of snow school will be closed Monday. I remain concerned about these large trees in old Catonsville; I just don't know how much more root shaking winds they can tolerate in such a short period of time.

ravensbbr said...

And...it's still not snowing here in NE CC. But Captain America is a great flick, highly recommend it.

Mary in Hydes said...

Looks like another snow season is beginning!  I did not think I would be posting in here in October.  No precip here as of yet, but my husband is with the Boy Scouts camping out near Ft. Frederick and said it was raining pretty hard.

hocoKtchr said...

Just raining here in my part of Fredneck.... not far from historic downtown....but it's still early!  :)

Julie Ray Smith said...

RAIN RAIN GO AWAY!

hocoKtchr said...

Snowing now!  :-D   Big flakes....Beautiful! 

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

Steady light snow with an occasional moderate burst, 33 degrees. 

ravensbbr said...

NE CC
Moderate Snow
Temp 30.7
WindChill: 24°F
Humidity: 100%
Dew Point: 30°F
Avg Wind: 4 ENE
Pressure: 30.03 and falling

ravensbbr said...

Andy, 101-level question for ya, is this a phasing storm, or is this just a case of the low moving up the coast and being in the lefthand, colder wrap around from it?

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

moderate snow, dusting on deck grass, 32.5 degrees.

NeedaSnowday said...

I thought it was bad that Christmas stuff would start coming out before Halloween... now, snow before Halloween? whoa...

Still gloomy cold rain here in Lutherville-Timonium...

ravensbbr said...

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMapFull.aspx

check out how the Susquhanna's warmer water is insulating the river valley back up to rain.

ravensbbr said...

I think it's the latter, but not sure, wanted to get your take

Elaina-Lee Dill said...

SNOW SNOW come and play

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

This was about 40 minutes ago, there is now a goo 1/2inch on the ground and heavy snow.  Driveway has slush on it now.

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

This is a classic Miller-A, storm moving up the coast. :)

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

What is amazong to me is that my tropical flowers on the deck are still thriving.  We have had only two very minor frosts here this season, and they were not enough to damage or even impact my plants.  This storm should do it though!

ravensbbr said...

<span>crappy cell phone pic, higher resolution to follow at some point. Weird consistency, goo is probably the best descriptor for this mess. If it sets up when the temp goes down...wow.</span>

Rob said...

Is the snow ever gonna start down here at BWI?

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

Merry Halloween! 

NeedaSnowday said...

I was just going to comment on the flowers and snow combo...  wonder how long they survive this lil event!

Getting some frozen precip right now..

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

It is amazing what a little elevation will do for you in a storm like this.  I am a pround mountain man!  (Hillbilly) is no longer in vogue, nor is it politically correct so I correct everyone I meet when they address me that way.

BioPat said...

Love the photo; so Merry Halloween it is!

BioPat said...

Your deck is beautiful with your flowers; can you do time lapse photography - that would be so neat to watch the floral response to the sudden weather shift.

ravensbbr said...

We're right at about 850FT, so kind of surprised to see this much stickage. By the way, we're all proud of being called hillbilly's up here, so no offense taken here. :)

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

I really am amazed at the prosepect of double digit snowfall prospects while all my tropical plants are still in bloom before Halloween!  This is pretty wild! 

ravensbbr said...

Cool, thanks.

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

Word of caution to anyone who lives in a wooded area like mine.  Watch out for tree limbs!  Everything is really starting to sag out here, and with the prospect of much more heavy snow there will be down limbs and trees later.

ravensbbr said...

I work around there, and it's amazing how my coworkers can't understand that just cause it's not snowing there, it could possibly be snowing elsewhere in MD :) . My take would be that it depends on the freeze line moving further east, but there's probably a better explaination/answer.

Rob said...

The rain/snow line has been sitting to the west of us all morning, I'm sure we will change over but I'm hoping for sooner rather then later!

ravensbbr said...

love it

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

This was about 30 minutes ago.  Now all the roads are snow covered and the snow is falling fast and furious.

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

There is about an inch of snow on the roads and close to 2 inches on the deck here.

ravensbbr said...

Power went out twice in the past 10 min. Just a heads-up to everyone to be prepared for a long, cold night.

ravensbbr said...

Anyone have an idea on ratio's for this one? 1:1 is what comes to mind. :(

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

The ratios are probably 10:1 now, maybe 8:1 earlier.  The flakes are smaller now as it has become much colder.

Mr. Foot - Dundalk, MD said...

Glad to see you all are back in action and busy as ever posting your obs! Thanks.

Amy said...

Waaaaaahh!  Insert Lucille Ball impression here.  I want snow.  Very jealous Andy and all those West of the freeze iine.

Julie Ray Smith said...

Can I get a flake? Just one flake :'(

BioPat said...

Just got back from a trip to find the rain/snow border from Catonsville; all we found was rain as far west as 108 near Clarksville.  I'm guessing we went far enough west just too far south.  At present we are experiencing sleet in Catonsville; no excitement just a dreary day.

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

It's time for you guys to pack your bags and move to the northern burbs!  The PA line is only 35 miles from downtown Baltimore, in that short distance you can go from wet to major snow.

hocoKtchr said...

Not tropical flowers here on my deck...but marigolds planted from seeds as  Mother's Day gifts in kindergarten..and some mums also in the planter- neither of which are enjoying this snow in Frederick!  But it sure is pretty to look at!  And much better than dreary rain!  Lots of tree branches are almost touching the ground!  I am glad that our power lines are below ground!!!  Take care all! 

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

Begging will not help.  Snow is earned, not given ;) O:-)

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

I used to live in Baltimore and over the years found myself on the wrong side of the rain snow line.  I am always amazed driving up and down 83 how much more snow can fall in a very short distance.  It is another world half a county away.

ravensbbr said...

And take an hour and half on your daily commute. Just being honest. :-P

Jen O said...

Hola from a Hallosnowy area...Red Lion, PA...It's pouring heavy, big wet flakes right now...

It really is a sight to see though. Hope ya'll stay safe, TONS of outages here in York.

Melissa Miller said...

In Hanover, PA....snow, snow, snow!  My son has already made a little snowman.  It started snowing here around 6:30 am and hasn't stopped.  We lost part of a tree already. My parents who live in Manchester, MD are already experiencing blinking lights.  They are worried about losing lots of trees! Ahhh... snow!  It is really coming down now.!  My husband will soon go out again to try to save our trees.

ravensbbr said...

This might be our last hurrah for the day, radar seems to indicate precip lessening to the south. Maybe some moisture could wrap around and work in from the east, but looks like the big low is moving up into NE. Smaller low working up the coast, maybe some more from that?

Jen O said...

This is across the street, can barely see

NeedaSnowday said...

You asked... and look below... you got the King of Flakes...haaaaaaaaa   :::::::runnnning away:::::

ravensbbr said...

You can have all of ours, if the power goes out.

NeedaSnowday said...

Getting the mixed bag of stuff here....  just like in the pillowcase when I was a kid trick or treating....  snow is like a snickers bar....  for me the wet nasty stuff would have been those Mary Janes....

ravensbbr said...

Been called worse ;)

ravensbbr said...

Justin Burke pondering a potential "bomb-out" deepening low on Facebook, hmmmm...

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

:-P

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

A few images from the day withing the last 1 1/2.

ravensbbr said...

gotta love the north...

juleew said...

Okay, o-KAY Andrew ... I'm JEALOUS!!!  Happy?
Dealing with SNOP (snow/slop) here in Pikesville.  Can't seem to get the same precipitate for more than 10 minutes.  Rain, sleet-y stuff, snow, rain, snow, sleet-y stuff, snow, rain.  Sure doesn' t look like YOUR house, Manwich!

juleew said...

QUITE an appropriate GHOSTman though!!!!!!!!!

juleew said...

I think DENTISTS give out Mary Janes!

Jen O said...

Andy, what is your elevation again?

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

According to my gps it is 1003 feet when car is at the top of the driveway.  Google lists me at 979.  Most of my road is above 900 feet. 

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

MD Snow refugees are always welcome in the hinterlands.  There are few amenities, most folk don't have teeth, but when it comes to cold weather and snow, few localities within a couple of hundred miles can beat us!  We are just far enough north, with just enough elevation that we seem to squeeze every last flake from the clouds.

Jen O said...

Gotcha...I'm about at the same elevation..921

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

It looks like some convection is breaking out to my southeast in MD and DE.  The snow rate is really heavy here.

ravensbbr said...

Now...to throw or not to throw, that is the question. Thinking some of this could sublimate and lose some depth and density if I let it alone for tonight. Or...it could be one big immobile sheet of ice. Huh. *DONT_KNOW*

Andy, Southern York County, PA said...

Merry Halloween, and Happy Veterns day!  May all of your Halloween dreams come true!  I'm dreaming of a White Halloween, just like the ones I (NEVER KNEW!).  This storm is truly unreal.

juleew said...

Thanks for the invitation!  I'll be near there at school on Monday morning. 
Do you predict a late opening for the Hereford Zone???  Please?

Were my Hereford birds right, or were they RIGHT?????
They were RiGHT!

Amy said...

Hubby works in Towson, so southern PA is not out of the question for a decent commute.  Minus the fact my husband hates snow :-(

James Fold said...

You are the one who can realize that.

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