Monday, March 3, 2014

"What we have here is a FAILURE to COMMUNICATE."

"What we have here is a FAILURE to COMMUNICATE."
- From the 1967 film Cool Hand Luke starring Paul Newman

11:00 AM 3/4 (Long Range Team) Operational Note: We've been notified of many school closings that were initially two-hour delays. Apparently the cold is so intense that our request for a cancellation of future cold on behalf of the districts FROZE while being typed on an iPhone outdoors. 

The ensuing Phone shutdown caused a delay in being able to reassure schools that temperatures would be warming up again. We are mediating a contract settlement between Old Man Winter and Mother Nature to at least provide for an on-time arrival of appropriate Spring weather on or about March 20.  However, one of the "poison pill" provisions that was in the earlier buyout plan for March included several late-season events.  We are working out the relevant details (that our legal team is allowing us to share with the public) and will post said information this afternoon. 


10:45 AM 3/3 (Long Range Team) As the Arctic Attack from Canada and the Upper Midwest moves east, has brought with it the coldest daytime snowfall some have seen in 10+ years. For areas of the Mid-Atlantic still under Winter Storm Warnings, not since February 17, 2003 have temperatures been THIS COLD, this late in the season, while snow is falling!

It also begs the question that we know many have lingering in their mind (or screaming at the forefront)... ARE WE DONE or is there MORE?? A look at long range indications heading into March show the answer is, sadly, no. Factors including Central Pacific warming that is signaling the eventual return of El Nino this Spring and Summer. This in turn could be related to model projections for an increasingly active Equatorial Pacific to Gulf of Mexico as a source of enhanced moisture input for future storms. If you combine this with the Climate Prediction Center's call for a rising probability of below normal temps now to MARCH 16 for the Eastern U.S., that means a phrase few of us want to hear OR see: More Winter-like Storms.

It would seem whomever is processing Mother Nature's emails and twitter account is suffering from a case of communication breakdown: We CLEARLY requested in writing a cease and desist order for this weather. What are your thoughts on the pattern ahead?

(Forecasters Foot, Long Range Coordinator Nic R. and the LR Team)

88 comments:

Tina said...

We've got about 2" in lower DE and it's still snowing like crazy. But, what Andy said... I think the fast moving cold is gonna end it earlier than we expected. Kinda glad, kinda not. A foot of snow is daunting without a snow blower AND with tennis elbows!!

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Blogger Matt Emerson said...

Let's be real, a huge BUST by those forecasting 8-12". Who could've foreseen that coming?

Matt,

PSYCHO DRUNK ANALYSIS APPLIES HERE

We have wild toga parties here in the hinterlands. Crazy keggers, bon fires, mud wrestling, and home made fireworks. You name it we have it! The problem is we are always running out of beer.

One day we send Bio Pat out for a liquor run, but tell her look "you need to watch for the deranged Crazy Psycho down the street who sits on his porch as he will heckle you and throw things at you.
Bio Pat being the prudent conservative drunk that she is crosses the street and walks the opposite side of the road and is heckled.

Next beer run Julee being the calculating drunk she is takes heed and carries a shield. She is heckled, but the shield protects her from the plaque encrusted dentures that are tossed at her.

Next beer run the new guy who crashed the party decides that we are nuts and ignores what is said and walks by Crazy Psyco's house, but nothing happens.

New guy reports back and is warned and says we were wrong about Crazy Psycho, and our ideas concerning Crazy Psycho are unfounded, and busted horribly! We suck!

SO in the final beer run new guy cuts across Crazy Psycho's lawn and finds himself tied up upside down hanging from the ceiling of Crazy Psycho's basement ready to become the main course.

Now our Toga party live from the hinterlands continues without new guy, and others take heed and make more beer runs always avoiding Crazy Psycho. We have plenty of liquor, the party goes on, and we will always follow our party playbook. It has served us well.

Although as we party we can't seem to figure out what that sweet smoky smell is permeating the air from the down street is, and where new guy might be with our beer! GENERAL IDEA ABOUT CRAZY PSYCHO VERIFIED, BUT THE EXTENT OF CRAZY PSYCHO WAS UNDERESTIMATED!

Tina said...

Bravo Andy, bravo!!!

And here's to hoping it doesn't go over the head of the intended student(s)...

Amy said...

Love love love it Andy!

Matt Emerson said...

BUST

BioPat said...

beer run, hmmmm. Sweet smokey stuff must be good stuff and the crazy psycho wins, much stronger than anyone could have anticipated! Not happy but gives one an excuse for hot beverages to calm the other deviant viral cold, I do hate those little gremlins.

Detritus Effluvium said...

Not to worry Andy. This was an unpredictable beast as anyone paying attention to the data would know. I'm glad we got less than half the forecast amount but I have a long unpaved country lane to plow and I've had enough.

As far as the below normal temperatures continuing into March, I've had enough of that too. The heating bills are mounting up and a lot of people have been hit hard, especially those using propane.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

I use a playbook for my forecast idea and stick to it each and every time. It has NEVER failed me.

This winter we have properly conducted an analysis of every single storm and storm threat. Our ideas have been as spot on as possible.

As I look back on this long hard winter our ideas verified as planned 90% of the time.

"OVERALL" this was still a forecast win in my book even though the high totals we came up with first, which the national weather service corroborated later in their warning for 8-12, and their discos for 14 did not verify.
I felt the models were not properly handling the extend of the cold air and that the storm would trend colder and snowier. I was not worried about rain etc

Models did underplay the cold and kept adjusting to the point that the forecasted higher totals were squeezed to the extreme.

I did not model hug (well I did but not computer models!)but felt that these forecast tools UNDERPLAYED THE COLD. I was right and they did. They were wrong and continually played catch up over and over. We saw that with the NWS hoisting warnings for PA, then dropping them.

We saw 8-12 inch modeled snow slowly squashed and suppressed due to the unprecedented historic polar March cold. We are challenging ALL TIME COLD records for March today. NEVER HAPPENED like this before.

So the idea of winter storm warnings, cold winning, high society impact storm verified. The EXACT TOTALS for the reasons mentioned slowly crept down.

Usually in this part of the world especially in March when you fight the cold you win, but in the winter of 2013-14 the COLD WINS every time!


Mr. Foot said...

Powdered sugar greetings all!

The Advisors want to run by the old guard here a proposal for your consideration. It is called,
"An Evening with the Forecasters" and would be held sometime in mid-Fall this year. Can't give away too much detail here and spoil the surprise, but it's a slight expansion of ravensbbr's idea of a group sledding trip.

(Except it would be at a banquet hall, so you could bring your sled but would have to check them in the sled closet.)

If wish to be invited to a confidential discussion group to explore ideas for this, send me a request at rich.foot@footsforecast.org

(Yes, Julee it's a private Facebook group, but I promise it is not evil.)

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Matt,

TOTAL BUST you win. I am enjoying my sunny and 60 degree day with zero snow, and all schools and offices open on time, with trains, buses, airports right on schedule. Easy ride in today, no accidents, no problems, no shoveling, no ice.



BioPat said...

Sounds like a great idea Rich, I'll send out my info asap.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

I'm up for a party!

ravensbbr said...

I'm in. Will bring sleds for all. :-P

Matt Emerson said...

8-12 is all people care about. Fail.

Tina said...

Matt, we heard you the first 5 times. Change the tune or change the blog.

ravensbbr said...

Enlighten us, Matt Emerson. What was your forecast for this storm? Were you spot-on?

Butch Dynomite said...

I'm glad I just shoveled. Thatquarter inch of slushsleet under powder is gonna be tougher to deal with later.

Mr. Foot said...

Thanks everyone for an always effervescent convo! Rest assured we will do a post-storm verification, and not just explain away what happened (or did not happen).

There's no fear of admitting error. If it makes bustamania types happy, I'm all for it. As Mother Hen I do like to discern if bust-o-matic folks have some other axe to grind, wish to grind their axe on the student forecasters that work for free, or are actually true Purple Powderhounds.

If the latter, I understand. A real Powderhound is one that, by nature (and like me), accepts nothing less than at least 24" on the ground, still heavily snowing and temps at 0 degrees. At least we will get the third criterion met tonight... (Mr. Foot)

Mr. Foot said...

Excellent point Mr. Butch Dynomite, you and Mrs. Foot agree on this. I need to get out and CLEAR before everything here becomes a new set for Disney's FROZEN Sequel.

Westsidehideaway said...

This event event was all fun. I am glad that we don't have 10' of snow here in West Bmore. Now I don't have to cancel the 6pm appt with the tax preparer tonight. Roads are all good. Not sure about the taxes though !!

Matt Emerson said...

Well said Foot, "Bust-o-mania"...I like it.

Kathi said...

Oh my gosh, I would love to meet you guys! Thanks Mr. Foot!

Bill from Southern AA County said...

1 man's loss is another man's gain...and fortunately or unfortunately, our snow totals here in South County are gaining as the snow has picked up over the past hour, thus delaying the snow removal efforts for lunch. And I 100% agree with the majority of the posts; until someone sticks their internet necks on the line and gives us a forecast / prediction before the event, then keep your negative comments to yourself. The world has enough critics on the sidelines of life.

James said...

Why are some folks so concerned about Andy's breasts. I'm so confused! ;)

NeedaSnowday said...

Just came in from shoveling several inches snow....in March!! Agreed with Butch about the icy crust...eek!

James ...hilarious!!

NeedaSnowday said...

Matt, I'd like to get your thoughts on Thursday as well as your long range thoughts on 12-14 and 14-16 since we obviously can't rely on the drunken Crazy Psycho.

Tina said...

Ditto James, that's pretty witty!

ShovelingaSnowday... don't hold your breath. Gotta feeling ole Matt's a lot of hot air. Hot air and no substance. Oh and a one-word vocabulary.

Still snowing pretty heavily in lower DE. Windy. Got about 4 -5", but it's blowing around. Roads are a mess (judging by traffic cams... we're going NO where today).

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Snow threats on the table this Thursday and next week. Thursday night into Friday "could" deliver a moderate event for central MD. Canadian Ensembles GGEM modeling has latched onto the idea and ECMWF (Euro) has trended in a snowier direction. The type of threat that I would say is on the table would be a 4-8 inch type event if it happens Thursday night. Keep in mind it is not a forecast for those who do not follow our discussions but a discussion on potential.

Next week there is a STRONG signal for a MAJOR WINTER storm. Too far out to have any confidence but the idea can be placed on the back burner as a possibility for now. That threat would have the "POTENTIAL" to be a 1-2 foot blockbuster.

So this winter looks to keep on giving. Winter won't let go, and March is looking like the new February.

Tina said...

Thank you Andy for the possibilities floating in the crystal ball! Now, I'm going to be worried we'll get another serious chunk of cold air heading south next week, screwing things up again. Mid-March, worried about too much cold.

::shaking head::

Butch Dynomite said...

This time last year I was preparing to plant spring garden. Crazy winter. I am almost out of both salt and firewood and may be teaching into July. Bring it on winter.loving it.

Tina said...

Ha, Butch! My husband is going NUTS wanting to start seedlings in the green house. After I fetched the mail one day a coupla weeks ago, I told him his porn magazine had arrived. The look on his face, alone, made that statement priceless. But the "magazine" was a Park's Seed Catalog! He didn't QUITE snatch it from my hands and run to look through it, but close! LOL!!!

BioPat said...

Hi all we've been busy getting walks, cars and driveway cleared only to watch it turn into an ice skating rink. The salt really won't work at these temperatures so I'll save it for tomorrow when the temps go up a bit. So far as tomorrow my husband and I are debating late or no school. I am betting on a late opening particularly with the possibility of more snow. Andy, I'll take another beer run and hopefully bypass the crazy guys.

mayawild said...

We are supposed to have msa tomorrow. A delay would be... Challenging. I don't think bcpss is going to call for one. In either case I expect attendance issues due to the low temperature and messy sidewalks. Thoughts?

Loosend said...

WOW. Eveything is frozen--lock on the gate, vehicle doors, path ways, etc. Glad I have spray anti-freeze for everything. Its going to be dicey tomorrow AM. I'd love to meet everyone at Mr. Foot's gathering.

Amy said...

Even with MSA starting, they will consider safety. They have a small amount of flexibility in administering the tests as well. The amount of accidents this morning, salt isn't going to clear the roads of ice over night, so I'm leaning towards a late start.

Matt Emerson said...

Please, enlighten yourselves...

http://freakonomics.com//2008/04/21/how-valid-are-tv-weather-forecasts/

I can help with some of the vocabulary if necessary.

NeedaSnowday said...

Harford announced a 2 hour delay already....

BioPat said...

It appears most schools in Baltimore area may be operating on a 2 hour late opening. Eastern Shore quite another story most of them will be closed.

Amy said...

Matt, you must live to irritate people. Good thing you're not watching TV, which makes that post completely moot. If your arrogance is a stumbling block to congenial participation then we invite you to find a crowd more to your liking.

NeedaSnowday said...

Hoco delayed
This decision will be reevaluated and schools may be closed if conditions are hazardous tomorrow morning. If schools are closed, the decision will be communicated at 7:30 a.m.

Matt Emerson said...

If you don't like it, don't read it...simple as that.

The whole point is I can say the complete opposite of any weather "expert" on any given occurrence and still have a 50% chance at being right.

Amy, if you would like me to break it down even further, I'd be happy to. Just let me know.

mayawild said...

Yup, Amy and biopat, you were right two hour delay! Looking forward to seeing what's next on the radar.

In light of recent events (comments) I am reminded of my grandfather's words. Argue with a fool and risk being taken for one.

ravensbbr said...

LOL, mayawild, very true. Matt is kind of amusing anyway, so we'll keep him around for awhile I guess.

Who knows, if he's here for actual intellectual debate and discussion, he could prove interesting. I have my doubts, but hey, he might actually learn something...



Tina said...

Agreed maya and bbr... I've heard that saying before and it's a keeper! As for Matt, it's gotten to the point now, he's not as irritating as earlier because it's almost a drinking game: how will he say the same thing with slightly different words. I actually laughed earlier, enough to make one of my dogs look up.

Danged cold here in DE. Tomorrow morning, the snow'll have that dry-ice squeaky crunch to it. While I'm not over yonder, I'm throwing my guess in for the schools: some of the wishful thinking 2-hour delays will turn into cancellations. It's just gonna be too cold for salt to work on the many secondary, etc roads. But, as with weather, time will tell!!

ravensbbr said...

I know when I came into this group, I was a skeptic that weather could be anything other then what the MSM TV and radio folks said it was.

And there's nothing wrong with disagreeing, just don't expect to be taken seriously by anyone here when the goal is to attack and not to exchange theories and ideas.

BioPat said...

Matt referred to "Freakonomics", which is a great book, and I even enjoyed the followup. The writers made some valid and interesting points but often their supporting data was limited in their discussions. However, it certainly gave pause for reflection. However I did not find their book either boastful or self serving. I did find the books entertaining. Perhaps Matt should take a lesson from his sources.

Amy said...

Most counties have opted to close at this point. Montgomery, PG and AA. Not sure if bcps and HoCo will change their minds. HoCo is pretty bad about timely plowing which will leave many secondary roads as sheets of ice. I don't mind the reevaluation but waiting until 7:30 is a bit late. Last time we ended up with a delay after bad weather it took me 2 hours to get to work. I barely made it before the first bell and my commute is normally 30 minutes.

Mr. Foot said...

Hey folks, while we are on the topic of authenticity in weather forecasts and digital media, I seriously invite you all, Mr. Emerson included, to visit the website of one of your fellow Advisors. It is an excellent resource and this gentleman in Dallas TX has done MORE for our team than any professional in the weather business has ever.

His name is Kevin Selle, he is the Chief Meteorologist of the Texas Cable News, has advised FF since May 2011, and when it comes to weather media, he is among the rare ones who "gets it" -- you will find his insight so, insightful that it night seem he is speaking to us directly.

http://digitalmeteorologist.wordpress.com

Take a look you'll never see weather media the same again.

Julee said...

WHOA Andy! Four to eight inches on Thursday! My sister is driving in from the 'burgh Thursday evening ... ORRR ... NOT. Shall I tell her to re-schedule?

I'll get HER to pick up the beer.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

I don't always read books, but when I do they tend not to be essays that appeal to or are emblematic of the populist zeitgeist which is nothing short of hollow cynicism, pathological narcissism, and cultural decay.

The scientific fidelity of social science is a topic of heated contention in academics. Levitt and Dubner endeavor to make a strong case for validating statistical analyses of an infinitely complex human society but arguably fail.

As any statistician will tell you, one of the major pitfalls of their field is the confusion of correlation and causation. Just because X and Y have similar trends does not necessarily mean that X caused Y or that Y caused X. Numerous times throughout the book, Levitt and Dubner chastise various experts, pundits, and conventional wisdoms for failing to observe this basic tenet. Yet so tempting is this trap that the authors fall right in along with their targets.

The only positive thing to say about Freakonomics is that it makes you think. But any controversial book can do that. Though there are some fairly solid examples in the book such as regards the real estate agents, the sumo wrestlers, and the cheating teachers, overall the book is uncritical of its own thinking. It would be fine if Levitt and Dubner acknowledged that there may be other interpretations at least as good as their own, but they choose instead to pontificate their own views, in flagrant violation of their professed objectivism. And oddly enough, I happen to agree with most of their views, just not with how they reached them. Levitt is clearly a brilliant man, and I hope he continues to churn out interesting statistical correlations on unusual subjects... but he and Dubner ought to leave the interpretations to others.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Julee,

That is an outward possibility but not likely yet. Canadian model has been pimping that prospect, but there is little support at this time from other guidance. It is just something to watch for now and see if any trends develop. Right now most guidance keeps the energy off the coast, but never close your eyes to coastal systems.

Matt Emerson said...

Wow, Andy I'm really disappointed. Plagiarism? Really?'

Everyone needs to click on this Amazon link and scroll down to a review posted by Lawrence Kwong. You can CTRL+F it and search for his name as a shortcut...look familiar? Especially this part, "As any statistician will tell you, one of the major pitfalls of their field is the confusion of correlation and causation. Just because X and Y have similar trends does not necessarily mean that X caused Y or that Y caused X. Numerous times throughout the book, Levitt and Dubner chastise various experts, pundits, and conventional wisdoms for failing to observe this basic tenet. Yet so tempting is this trap that the authors fall right in along with their targets."

http://www.amazon.com/Freakonomics-Economist-Explores-Hidden-Everything/dp/0060731338

Andy, did you really google "freakonomics criticism" and just copy and paste the first link that came up?

I'm sure this post we be deleted out of pure embarrassment. If you wanted to sound so smart, maybe you should have cited your sources...just a thought.

Matt Emerson said...
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Matt Emerson said...

Update: 80% of Andy's post was copy and pasted from one Lawrence Kwong on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com.au/Freakonomics-Economist-Explores-Hidden-Everything-ebook/dp/B002RPCOH8

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Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Matt

EXACTLY! Which is why I cut and pasted it here. Way too many characters to paste the entire review as there is a 4000 character limit so I took the relevant paragraphs.

You immediately googled the book, saw the top negative review, and jumped back here. I would be surprised if you even read the book or any other book of substance.

It is the number one negative review of the book out there on Amazon in plain view and the most visible one. It is a high school level book assigned to high school students, and some econ 101 community college classes and not an academic prize, or regarded for its complexity.

The review is written by a scholar
That book has no bearing on this site or your trolling, and your trolling of posters here is tiresome.

If you want to talk about the weather feel free, but acting as the ultra ego of the antagonism of that book we not score you any points and may get you banned.

CONSTRUCTIVE AND NOT DESTRUCTIVE TONE!

Matt Emerson said...
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James said...

http://blog.georgetownvoice.com/2014/02/19/study-shows-internet-trolls-are-sadistic-and-narcissistic-vox-is-looking-at-you/?cb=0779453078052029

James said...

Epic jealousy. Trolling Andy on a weather blog is like competing in SNL's celebrity jeopardy. Even if you win, you're still sort of a fool. But please, continue. It's amusing the adjusted folks here.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Matt,

This is not a book club or discussion, we are not writing papers on esoteric antagonistic books. I have never read that book and am not interested in populist economic expositions leveled by theoretical academics.

I trolled you by pasting a quote that has been 5 stared by THOUSANDS of people after writing a brief paragraph concerning the lack of interest in such a book.

Now you are fired up!

Do onto others has they will do onto you. Please be respectful and we look forward to your weatehr related contributions.

BioPat said...

Matt, please adhere to the spirit of this blog or please find a new place to unload your antagonistic rhetoric.

Matt Emerson said...
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Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Matt,

You have not been around this blog long enough! I played you like a weather forecast. You have been trolling teachers, myself, bloggers, and others relentlessly for days.

You make snarky comments about "helping others if they don't understand" big words.

I immediately googled the book, clicked on the first tab that came up, read the first most VISIBLE REVIEW, pasted it.

I knew immediately that YOU and others would do what I did. We are not that daft. I expected you to run back here ranting and raving.

The fact that you did in the manner that you did, citing the book that you did. makes it clear you are here for NEGATIVE ANTAGONISTIC reasons, and not for weather or ACADEMIC purposes.

From a social and psychological perspective the content of your posts makes it clear that you are near your 18th birthday, bored, and seeking attention. You cite a book that was talked about in school and adopt an alter ego of that book.

I invite you to be a contributing member of this blog, but this foolishness has to stop.

Please be respectful!


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Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

NWS BALT WASH
Long term /Thursday night through Monday/...
low pressure will deepen off the southeast coast Thursday night
before making its way northward off the East Coast on Friday.
This general synoptic pattern of a coastal low forming for the end
of the workweek has persisted in the global models through the
past weekend...though the track of the low and the resulting local
effects have varied run-to-run. Both Euro and GFS continue to
trend the low off the coast...so left only chance of light snow in
the forecast for Thursday night/Friday morning.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

Julee,

I would still keep an eye on it, because as mentioned by NWS the track is still uncertain. Latest trends have been to bring it closer to the coast but also warm things up so if we have precip it would likely be rain.

As much as I love snow a break would be nice. Next week there is the signal for a larger scale storm, but it is impossible at this range to have any confidence in any specific solution.

Andy, Southern York County Pa said...

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NWS BALT/WASH
Statement as of 8:24 PM EST on March 03, 2014

... Icy roads and abnormally cold conditions tonight...

Clear and calming conditions will allow temperatures to drop to
near record low temperatures tonight. Interior areas can expect
lows around zero degrees fahrenheit. Even without a wind chill due
to little or no wind... these temperatures can lead to hypothermia
on exposed skin if precautions are not taken.

Furthermore... roads remain snowy and icy from snowfall earlier
today.

If you must venture outside tonight... please take extreme caution
and dress appropriately for the conditions.



Jackson/hts

Mr. Foot said...

Mr. Emerson, I invite you to contact me directly: rich.foot@footsforecast.org. From there I'll provide my phone number and we'll arrange to speak as gentlemen on the subject with the Advisors, in person or by telephone. In the meantime we'll be invoking our public advisor policy so those who have or will receive admin access to comments will remove uncivil posts.

And now back to the weather.

Amy said...

6:30 and getting ready for work only to wonder if HoCo will change their mind. Very worried about road conditions. Anyone in the Baltimore Metro Area ventured out on the roads yet? Anyone from Hoco who can report on secondary roads?

James said...

Towson is coooooold. Almost died 12 times taking out trash and it's eerily quiet outside. :-/

ravensbbr said...

I went to school up north in the 90's. Never did I see low temps like this in March, even up there.

Sure am glad for manmade global warming these days. :-P

NeedaSnowday said...

Carroll co just called it a day... Sorry Amy no word on HoCo yet...

Sandy said...

Frederick county just closed too

Unknown said...

Howard County Schools Closed. Congrats All!

Amy said...

Very excited to not have to drop off son at friends house, and risk my pregnant butt falling on ice at school. I was refreshing FB every minute after 7:15.

Unknown said...

The record-low temperature of 5 degrees for the entire month of March set in 1873 at BWI was broken this morning when temperatures fell to 4 degrees. May God have mercy on our souls.

Kathi said...

Amy, I'm so glad you didn't have to go out this morning! I think you are pretty close to your due date aren't you? Definitely don't want you falling!

Ok, back to the weather!

ravensbbr said...

Curious as to what the next major event will hold. Will be close to the sun angle death knell of the Ides of March, could be interesting...

Amy said...

I would gladly forgo any more snow if it meant the parents would stop complaining their heads off on the different county web sites. Like it's the teacher's conspiracy to not have school. They've suggested Saturday school and taking away spring break as solutions since we are THREE days over our allotted days. Can you imagine if we get more snow?

RavensBBR- I don't think anything is off the table with what we are seeing. Sun angle should be the death knell for snow, but if that polar vortex pays us one more visit...

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Tina said...

Amy... "Can you imagine if we get more snow?"

What I can imagine even less is if any school district tries to make school happen on a Saturday! Lordy, if you think you guys get blamed for the weather, can you imagine the fall-out from THAT decision? You'd have to borrow some of Andy's kevlar just to show up at work!

Tina said...

By "this", do you mean this blog...? Ms W, do you have a son named Matt?

Regardless, a lot of the folks on here have a LOT more patience than I do for comments like yours. This constant taking the high road is giving me altitude sickness.

Tell ya what, when you've set it up, please let us know about your grammatically-correct weather blog and we'll come check it out!! Otherwise, I think you're out of luck here, but thanks for the helpful link.

Amy said...

Tina- I'm just stunned by what parents post in public forum with their proper name attached to the comment. I was surprised that parents are upset that we might only go 177 school days instead of 180. Boggles the mind.

Looks like the temps are helping out with Thursday event. Mixing seems like an outside chance, more likely rain.

Tina said...

Amy, I think a lot of people have either forgotten what it was like before one could post one's thoughts as they're being created or are so self-entitled, it's the norm for them. I do feel so much sympathy for teachers now. EVERYTHING is their fault. They used to have the parents backing them up... not so much anymore. When I was growing up (and I'm only 50), if/when my teacher sent anything home that was less than flattering, man, did the wrath of parents POed rain on my head. There was no THOUGHT of blaming the teacher.

Tina said...

I just hope the week's weather stays one way or the other: snow or rain. Not the dreaded ice. Agreed, it seems like rain at this point.

Cathy in BelAir said...

Tina,
Loved your response to,Ms W,, assuming that it was a "Ms.", My first thought when I read it was that "Matt" had signed in as Ms W. , it wouldn't surprise me!

Julee said...

Andy, thanks for the info on Thursday! I think she's attempting to leave earlier in the day since BIG mountains are involved.